After the latest embarrassment in Europe there are at least some points of potential hope for the optimists among you.
If, for example, Arsenal recover from the Olympiakos reverse to beat Manchester United this weekend at The Emirates (Sunday, Kick Off 16:00 Local time) then the feel good factor will return, in one fell swoop, before the next two week international break kicks in.
Because a defeat of the league leaders will at least give Arsenal room for belief that they can make a decent fist of the title chase – if not in Europe.
And, with Manchester City and Chelsea continuing to struggle, you would have thought that this would be a great season to have a proper crack at The Premier League.
Unfortunately bad habits die hard and, based on the performance on Tuesday night, the Arsenal manager steadfastly refuses to heed the calls of, well pretty much everyone, and increase the quota of grit to complement the irrefutable guile in this Arsenal side.
Wenger needs to make his side more solid for the visit of United, but with bookmaker William Hill only offering odds of 2/1 for the home side to win, the bookies aren’t confident that Wenger will make the necessary tactical or personnel decisions.
With Flamini, Wilshere, Arteta, Welbeck and Rosicky all likely to remain sidelined for this one, Arsenal are looking at the same selection as they had for the midweek fixture.
We would like to see Coquelin and Ramsey play in front of the defence. We would play Cazorla instead of Mesut Ozil, who always seems to flounder against top opposition.
And we are going to shore up the defence with the experience of Debuchy at right back.
So here is our Arsenal XI for the big one.
Arsenal fans: let’s have your best teams.
